April to October 2008
The SPCA raid of the Cape Breton Celtic Pets is widely known. However, many details are still shrouded in shadow. The following emails between Joan Sinden, Annette Armitage, and shelter operator Zonda Macisaac, makes us wonder what else there is to know.
The SPCA seized dozens of dogs and cats. Some it put down immediately. Another group was shipped to Metro Shelter, others scattered through the province. Nobody seems to say how many of each. About two months later, the shelter put down a handful of dogs that were being rehabilitated at Celtic Pets before they could be adopted. One of them was a big beautiful malamute named Bre. She probably have suffered a lot from being so confined for two months or more - the shelter is not meant for long-term care. The rumor is she became aggressive, but so far it's only rumor.
Annette Armitage directs the Animal Rescue Coalition. At first, she and "dog politics" blogger Joan Sinden (dogkisser.blogspot.com) criticized the SPCA about the raid. SPCA memberships were revoked for five people including Joan. Soon afterwards the president and vice president of the SPCA resigned in scandal. Neither was ever charged with animal cruelty violations for the illegal euthanizations, nor was anybody else. Still, the vice president made her resignation “retroactive” by a few months, probably thinking that she could avoid responsibility for the illegal deaths that way. The kicked-out members were invited back in October by a new board member, Sean Kelly, and the rest of the board of directors, new and old. But since last spring the SPCA has no president or vice president. According to SPCA by-laws, a president is required for the society to legally function, i.e., spend money, appoint committees, hire staff, hold a meeting, stuff like that. Which begs the question, who will preside over the annual meeting? But we digress.
After the raid a few people like Joan Sinden and Annette Armitage tried to support Zonda Macisaac. They soon changed their positions after getting a lot of flak. Joan then became a harsh critic of Zonda and to this day faults her with the ill-health and aggressive behavior of a dog named Jack that she adopted. Here's some examples of her recent opinion, an endorsement of Zonda that Joan posted in 2006, and what she had to say about the SPCA in September 2008. In many posts - some may have been deleted by now - she gives the distinct impression that Zonda was mistreating Jack, a dog that went through about a dozen foster homes that Zonda was actually trying desperately to keep from being put down. There is an email about Jack from one of these foster families.
In this email however it's clear that whileJoan was bashing Zonda online, for some time she was very friendly with her and asked her for help in saving some of the dogs that were seized. She also shows a very different attitude to the SPCA than she does today. Who knows for sure whether what she wrote then is the truth, or what's on her blog now? What is true is that she wrote both. She claims now that she always writes the truth, but the question of personal integrity remains.
The emails came from people who received copies. They are not responsible for this blog, nor are any of the emailers. The content is unchanged; names and addresses of most third parties deleted, with some exceptions. Oops.
We are not here to explain, accuse, or defend anybody, just to offer raw material. For answers, ask the authors, preferably in person.
The Real Pooper
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)>
To: Zonda
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:00 AM
Subject: RE: Herald story already!
Sean did an excellent job, not sure if you know him…but he presented facts and only facts
With so much media they can’t fire him …even though he is a volunteer, but he knows they will make his life hell
And I have on record Jackie would have been ethued the night he went to the shelter had I not been there!!!!!!!! Pam knew that dog, so maybe it was personal against me, no proof but food for thought I actually expected you to be there If there is anything you can give me, or help me keep this in the media and public attention please please do
How about Pasty from CB saying that they had a 78% adoption rate?????? I said, one of the reasons you were placed in the position you were, and had so many animals is no one would trust the cb spca
Zonda, if you can help please do….we lost
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Sent: April 26, 2008 11:24 PM
To:
Subject: RE:
Thanks Jim for your offer to take this info to the executive, but I decline
I will not be forwarding the info to you, although I appreciate your effort to take it to the board, the executive nor your self will not allow input. I will use the media and other avenues
I have realized that the public apology ARC was seeking for joan will not be coming, after the display of disrespect of Mr. Degan towards the female members at the meeting was very obvious. The more I listen to the meeting and read the transcripts the more apparent it is. It is my member ship as President of ARC that should have been revoked not Joans, if any, they were all my decisions with Pam’s agreement that brought us to this point.
I got involved to help regulate rescue and for that reason only. When you spoke about the job offering for investigations officer, while I respect your position, you are responsible for the financial end…and answering questions that are not your dept or area was the straw.
I spoke with another board member, and he told me the spca is not a rescue it is a governing body …well it is time they acted accordingly
I wish you well in all you do
Thanks
From: Zonda [mailto: Zonda ]
Sent: April 27, 2008 1:55 AM
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Subject: Re: Herald story already!
Not a secret vote I hear...surprise surprise. I read that Sean Kelly stood up and spoke out about the society and the executive needing to be changed....does he realize what that means for him?????? Don't think that won't go unnoticed by the higher ups!!!
PATHETIC...the animals are still in limbo. It's funny no one ever even "wondered" what I would be willing to do at this point.
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: Zonda
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: SPCA DOG
AWESOME THANKS
On hold with the radio about this
From: Zonda [mailto: Zonda ]
Sent: April 28, 2008 12:34 PM
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Cc: Zonda ; S------@ns.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: SPCA DOG
Importance: High
KEGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is one of the ones they seized. He and his brother where in a house fire in the Spryfield area and they were left homeless. I got a call from a SHELTER STAFF MEMBER (who later got reprimanded by Cindy) begging me to take Kegan. They said that he "supposedly" nipped at someone when they went to check a cut on his face! I went up actually went up to the shelter, picked up food and mom and I took Kegan home and he is a darling! I have a letter that came with him, I will scan it and send it to you with this email. It was written by the previous owners I believe and signed "Keegan" The staff members name is (deleted) and she couldn't live with herself having to watch them put him to sleep. The shelter staff were there the day I took him. The dates on his vet record said Dec. 27/05 and again on Feb. 3/06 (METRO SPCA) and he got strong id T the same day, Feb 3/06. I will also attach a picture!!!!
I WILL ALSO FORWARD IN A SEPARATE EMAIL, AN EMAIL FROM GAIL!!!!!
Zonda
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: Zonda
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:04 AM
Judith just publicly stated on cbc radio that they never never placed a dog at CP
Just give me some names of dogs I want to call them
Annette Armitage
www.animalrescuecoalitions.com <http://www.animalrescuecoalitions.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: Zonda
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: FW:
I have them and will forward
But please don't say where they came from
------Original Message------
From: Zonda
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Sent: Apr 28, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: FW:
Netta: When I try to open them, it comes up "document can not be found"...may have to do copy and paste...I really need them. Thanks
Zonda
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: Zonda
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:39 PM
Subject: FW:
________________________________
From: Amanda Joudrey (Seabright)
Sent: April 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Subject: RE:
I have a few more saved at home I think too
________________________________
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 2:31 PM
To: Amanda Jourdrey (Seabright)
Subject:
Can you send me the emails where zonda asked for help
Annette Armitage
www.animalrescuecoalitions.com
When I'm old, I don't want them to say of me, "She's so charming." I want them to say, "Be careful, I think she's armed."
________________________________
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)>
To: Zonda
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: FW: Herald story already!
We weren’t successful…
They had over 35 shelter people there
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/9006455.html
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----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)>
To: Zonda
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 2:40 PM
Subject: FW: board communication
THEY are breaking their own laws by putting the dogs down on the basis of aggression ˆ it is in the act
http://www.gov.ns.ca/legislature/legc/statutes/animalcr.htm
THEY are KILLING dogs that are not their PROPERTY and that are part of an ongoing case.
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:netta@seabright.homeip.net>
To: Zonda
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:04 AM
Judith just publicly stated on cbc radio that they never never placed a dog at CP
Just give me some names of dogs I want to call them
Annette Armitage
www.animalrescuecoalitions.com <http://www.animalrescuecoalitions.com>
When I'm old, I don't want them to say of me, "She's so charming." I want them to say, "Be careful, I think she's armed."
(Below was originally sent to Maritime Animal Rescue by the foster parents of Jackie. Netta told Zonda he had been in his 5th foster home in as many months.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Armitage (Seabright)" <(mailto:netta@seabright.homeip.net>
To: <(deleted)
Cc: (deleted); < Zonda
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:56 AM
Subject: RE: Clairification on Jack
Thanks for letting us know, and we don't want to put Rags at risk either. I'm coping both Colleen and Zonda on this, as we are trying to get Jackie up to Zonda as we speak thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: {deleted foster parents)
Sent: July 30, 2007 8:17 PM
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Subject: Clairification on Jack
Hi Annette,
To be honest, we didn't think we'd be writing this e-mail at all, let alone so soon after taking Jack, but given the events of the weekend, (deleted) and I both felt some things needed some clearing up. We don't want to leave things on a negative note.
We honestly think the world of Jack. Before Sunday, we spent a lot of time remarking on how well he was adjusting, how much of a cuddler he was and so on. He's adorable when he stands on his hind legs for treats and he found a comfy spot between X and me almost immediately.
The situation itself became sticky due to Rags being pretty much oblivious to his surroundings. Rags is deaf, so often times, he doesn't notice things until they're right on top of him. He's clumsy and goofy, which we figured would lighten Jack's mood and give him a bit more zest for life.
Jack did lunge at Rags a few times, mostly due to Rags walking too close to a toy or chew that Jack was guarding. If it had been the case that Rags actually noticed Jack's body language and took a cue from it, it would not have been an issue. Rags basically had no idea Jack was even in the room half the time. To us, this is a safety issue for Rags. If this had been the only "acting out" Jack had done, we would have been able to work around it.
Jack's bite to my hand, I must admit, was the first time I've ever been bitten by a dog. I had given Jack a bath prior to the incident, during which he was perfect. He let me clean him all over with no growls or grunts of any kind. Literally in a matter of 3 minutes, Jack went from silly dog running and shaking off the excess water from his bath to snarling, growling aggressor. We attempted to order him off the couch with gruff commands, which only made him snarl more. I told him I was going to pick him up and placed a hand just on his back. Jack seemed to calm down enough to be picked up. Once I shifted my hand, he clamped down and for a split second, wouldn't let go. X and I quickly grabbed his collar, put it back on him and escorted him to the kitchen. After that, Jack slept most of the night, without any further incidents. He even crawled into my lap for a cuddle before bed.
Essentially, it's not that we think Jack is bad. It's a combination of the actions he's made over the past few days that have made us have to choose to give him up. If Jack was our only dog, or if Rags was bigger, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Unfortunately, we do have Rags and he is small and somewhat helpless. I know Jack will make a wonderful companion to his forever family; frankly, I'm jealous that we can't see him grow into the dog he deserves to be. Right now, we're simply worried that Jack will get angry at Rags for some reason and Rags won't see it coming until Jack's jaw is around a leg or his neck. Essentially, it's the "mood swings" and unpredictability that we think is a risk to ourselves and Rags. We want to help find a permanent home for Jack as soon as possible. We've taken new pics of Jack to freshen his profile on Petfinder. I've written a few lines that could be added to his bio. We thought that maybe more information might help match him to a family a bit better. We also thought that maybe listing him on MAR as a special case might work too. If there's anything he needs in the meantime or even after his move to help, we truly want to. We just want to see Jack happy and healthy.
I've attached one of the new pics we took to this e-mail. We're planning to take as many as possible over the next few days. He's not terribly keen on having his pic taken, but we'll do what we can. Let me know if you want a few more. I guess this e-mail has become a short novel. We just want you to knowhow we feel and that we're not giving up on Jack. We just have to help him in a different way than we had planned.
Sincerely,
X and X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: A question
Thank you Zonda - we are all finding out every day things that happened around the seizure didn't necessarily have to do with it - but had to do with the SPCA and people involved with the SPCA - I'm sure you know that it's dirty from the top right down to the bottom, and in so many ways that it'll make all of our heads swirl. I'm sure you're reading my blog - so you know I was booted out of the SPCA last week - but the problem with me is that I think that the people who want to take over from Pam and Judith are almost as bad as Pam and Judith themselves - so I'm in a dilly of a pickle, as it were. I have to keep my cards pretty close to my chest. But it's stinky.
It's lucky though that I've got the gift of the bag and an outlet to talk where a lot of people are reading it - I'm getting about 3,000 hits a week currently - so that's a lot of Nova Scotians that I can piss off! haha! I can't believe I've only had 3 people threaten to sue me so far. Anyway, keep your stick on the ice. We'll see what melee happens at the AGM this Saturday - I'll be watching from outside, which will suck.
Joan
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:24 PM, < Zonda wrote:
NO NOOOOOOO Joan this is NOT one of my dogs! Here is Lady with her new family!!!
She is the dog on the left hand side of the screen and has been adopted. Please note the different ears from the picture you sent me.
Please let me know what is going on?????
Zonda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: "Zonda" < Zonda
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:54 PM
Subject: A question
Hi there Zonda,
I have a difficult question for you - I know I'm taking a very big liberty by asking of it from you, but it could perhaps change a couple people's lives by your answer - and it's not yours - what answer you give me has nothing to do with you - but it could have very bad effects for someone who when it came out I'm sure you would be very happy I acted on it. But I need you to look at a photo, which is going to be difficult for you to look at - and tell me if it's a dog named "Lady". And if it is - all you have to tell me is - "yes", and if it's not - all you have to tell me is "no" - I don't need to know anymore than that. All I need to know - if you're even willing to tell me that much - is "yes", or "no". And it could have some consequences for some people.
Thanks in advance for thinking about it Zonda.
Joan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Jack
It's done - and this is only between you and me.
Thanks Zonda.
Joan
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Me and my dogs <dogkisser@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there Zonda
- that is exactly what I was told, but I was told a lot of things by Netta - a lot of which is proving to not be true. And I saw that email she sent to you where she said that Metro was going to euthanize him if you didn't sign him over to you, which was also bullshit - he was with me when she sent that to you - and I don't imagine they would've euthanized him had they taken him from me – they just would've thrown him in a cage - like they did all the others. You're right - what I said about Alice was unnecessary to the story and it doesn't need to be there - I'll remove it. At this point I'm more inclined to believe you at this point. And Jack is definitely an alpha dog, that's for sure.
Did you see that Global News story where I was defending you after the seizure? I think I was basically the only rescue person in Nova Scotia who came out in defence of you - and I have been pretty much been paying the price ever since - which hasn't bothered me at all, really. It was like the 3rd or 4th day after the seizure. I'll remove the bad stuff off of my story about Jack - I'm trying to get at Pam - not you or Alice.
Joan
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:29 PM, < Zonda wrote:
Joan...
I am glad Jack is with you. BUT to say that he was living is squalor and say "you were told" his food was thrown on the floor and he had to fight for it is ABSOLUTELY BULLSHIT. He had been in TWELVE homes before I was contacted through Netta and Colleen Little and he would be dead if he hadn't have come here. He is a darling and was the alpha dog from day one and only with mom did he learn to trust a bit more and come a long way from day one. He never HAD to fight for food, he wanted HIS food and HE was going to get first and that was it! PLEASE don't state such things about the conditions he was in; the public display of videos, etc. about me should be ENOUGH to keep everyone talking for many many years to come.
Netta contacted me after the seizure that the SPCA - Pam was wanting to take Jackie from her or the foster home and he would be EUTHANIZED; she asked me to PLEASE help save his life and contrary to everything that is circulating, ALL those dogs, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM would be DEAD if they hadn't have come this way Because they were on their last of many chances to be adoptable as per the OWNERS that turned them over.
I agreed to sign the paperwork for Netta because she told me that he was going to be adopted by YOU and I felt that you were an awesome pet owner and I informed mom of the same and had her agree that in the best interest of Jackie, he should be with you. My feelings still remain the same but I ask you to please refrain from stating such things about my mother's place...if you feel you must voice your anger, take it out on me.
Zonda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Photo of Dottie
Hi there Zonda - you and I have conversations and I know where you're coming from and I understand you, but I hope you understand that I have to write what I have to write - I took out that sentence about your Mom and I won't say anything about your Mom - but now that you've said this I'll try to be more considerate.
Joan
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:18 PM, < Zonda wrote:
I am waiting for a picture of Gracie (Dottie) and I have Damien's. JoanI see on your blog that it says that the animals weren't loved at Celtic Pets...THIS IS FALSE Joan and I just want you to know that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: "Zonda" < Zonda
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:58 PM
Subject: Photo of Dottie
Hi there Zonda - we're trying to get photos of some of the dogs who were killed. I've been able to get photos of some of the dogs - but I haven't been able to find any photos of Damien or of Dottie - who was a dalmation mix that Alice had. There isn't any way at all that Alice took a photo of Dottie, is there? I think I heard that Damien was a rottie mix maybe. You know how strongly I feel about dogs being killed - and I wrote when this all went down that if this happened that there would be hell to pay. It's a whole new game now. If we can put a set of eyes to each of these dogs - that makes it a lot better. Joan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: SPCA
I know that's why you did that to those specific dogs - and then for them to destroy those specific dogs - is unconscionable. And for Pam to say they were destroyed BECAUSE they were unadoptable - and you all along said you weren't willing to release them because they were unadoptable - is so - I don't have any words to describe it. But the problem is about this - I don't know how to write this - the fact that they destroyed your dogs who you had always said was unadoptable - but at the same time they were manageable - and still deserving of life - and she definitely did it out of spite. But this is going to be the thing that sinks her - because she did kill your property - unless they made an application to the crown to transfer ownership of those animals over to them before they did it - they've made a huge mistake - I talked to a friend of mine who's a crown attorney - and they would've had to do that before they killed the dogs - and the courts would've had to give you notice of that - so if you haven't gotten notice of that - their application to transfer ownership - then they didn't do it - so they are f----d. But you're right - we've got to stop the money - if Pam is the cause of the money stopping - then she'll have to go. So we'll see what we can do.
Joan
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:51 PM, < Zonda wrote:
I did legally adopt the animals that were taken from Cenotaph Rd. (the dogs) and I did that specifically so that they were my property and they wouldn't be destroyed. And the (deleted) destoryed some of them anyway. Bre was my baby and I can't tell you how devastated I am over all of them but Bre and Scupper were closer to me. Apparently they won't let anyone see any of the dogs at the shelter; why is that? They killed them out of spite and anyone that can do that and keep a straight ugly face on tv is pathetic. Oh and Dr. Morrison is aware of the corruption at the top too and he knows About the vote buying and I too know the vote buying existed and from chats I have had with him previously, he is scared to bring anything up because then the BOD will see it as "his" own agenda rather than bringing a concern forward. If Pam Keddy gets back in or remains as President, they WILL lose their status because so much attention is going to be focused on what has been done, it is outrageous. The number to call and they will connect you to the Charity complaints department is 1-800-267-2384...this is the only way Joan. IF the BOD feels threatened that they will lose their charity status, and the money stops, then and only then, they might get some balls and do something. You are fantastic to write so if there is any way to encourage people to do this, I think it may be what will do it. The money is what is movtivating the whole works of them. I know several people who have contacted the charity folks already and PLEASE encourage others to...she is going to be stopped one way or the other.
Zonda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: SPCA
No, I've never suggested anyone do anything like that because it's never occurred to me - although I think that people might have posted something like that in the comments. It truly does boggle my mind that Pam can continue to rule the board and everybody on the board just resigns whenever anyone disagrees with her - it seems like there really is no way to get rid of her until April 2009. I even don't see how they'll be able to get rid of her tonight if Andrew Morrison is voted in as President. I just don't know how one person can have such a stangle hold over an organization. Staff at the Dartmouth shelter have been quitting since the killings - and they've been forced to sign confidentiality agreements - we need to them to get themselves a set of balls so that they'll speak out in spite of that - I don't know how to do it - but they need to stand up for those animals. And don't worry about our emails - I'll keep them to myself.
Joan
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:11 PM, < Zonda wrote:
Joan have you ever posted anything on your blog directing people at This point to contact the ones in charge of complaints against a registered charity. The SPCA needs there status questioned and perhaps that is the only amount of pressure they will react to. There have already been complaints submitted with regard to an abuse of power, the funds they gathered of the hide of the animals and then destroyed them illegally. They have to be stopped. I am interested in hearing what happens at the BOD meeting tonight. I hope you will have something on your blog about same.
Also, please do not post this email anywhere as I am waiting to go to court and don't want any more dogs to pay the price because that (deleted) Pam wants to rule with an iron fist.
Zonda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: Zonda
Zonda,
I absolutely know that you are not a fool. You and I have known each other for a lot of years now. I think by now you've know my character a little bit. I know you've also read every blog post I've written, and I don't think I've ever written a positive blog post about the NS SPCA. I've been pretty generous with my use of negative speech about them, but I've said very little negative about you, really - and if you notice in that sentence I point out that that commenter's friends - Judith and Pam - are people who I would never want to associate with.
Right now Zonda - you really do have no friends in this province - for anyone to call you their friend would be suicide, don't you think? Do you think that if I said on my blog that you were a friend of mine that anyone would listen to me about anything? That I could do anything for any of your dogs anymore? What I care about is the same thing you do - your dogs - I want them to stop suffering at the hands of the NS SPCA - and whenever something is happening with them - I contact you about it. And I thought you'd want to know. I don't know that I've actually asked you for any really intricate information. If you don't want me to contact you any more, I won't. I'm okay with that too.
Joan
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:41 PM, < Zonda wrote:
Joan - it is quite apparent that you only want to correspond (if at all) ONLY to get info or access to info that you think I may or may not have and I am no fool and DO know that BUT please you do not speak for everyone in the province with regard to my "friends." I have found out who my friends really are. Even you Joan don't know both sides of this story and there is ANOTHER SIDE. Do you think everything was done legally by the SPCA? They are blatently breaking the law now; if they do that in public, what do you think they do behind closed doors and when they can exercise the "ironfist" and no one is the wiser. I know what they can do. We are not friends Joan and that is fine. I am not here to be liked, make friends, or whatever. I will speak when I am in a legal position to do so and until then, Everything that people are "alleging" is just that, allegations.-
---- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:23 AM
Subject: Re:
LOL haha! yes, I have - and I'll be using it as I need it. Pam is probably shitting HER pants right now because she realizes that I have it too. In one sense I feel bad for the employees at the shelter, but on the other hand they really are not very smart - but that is the only kind of people that Pam would hire. The ones who have been fired are definitely idiots - they are so scared by their confidentiality agreements that they won't say boo about anything at all because they're scared of being sued - and I'm like - who's going to sue you - the NS SPCA? Pam Keddy? With what money are they going to sue you? They are taking in zero donations right now. The dog jog made like $11,000, the golf tournament they had planned is cancelled - the NS SPCA is dead. We just need to push a little harder to put it over the edge.
Joan
On 6/23/08, Zonda < Zonda wrote:
Joan, I see you have been doing some reading! I figured you would find some interesting stuff in those manuals! I'll bet you some will be surprised by what they hear! PS: you're doing great taking them down one at a time on Kijiji.
Zonda ; )
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: dogs
I have no doubt about anything that you're saying at this point - usually when there's a seizure of this size all the animals have severe behaiouvral issues - but why do none of our animals have behavioural or psychological issues? Why do shelter staff quit in disgust as each killing takes place? Why are all the cats so wonderful and cuddly? These are things I can't say in public - but I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be noticing these things, Zonda.
I noticed that someone posted on Kijiji that on page 57 Delliel said - "As the owner of one of the cats it is my understanding that the cats were signed over to the SPCA. " - and that's why they're able to be adopted out now.
Joan
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:08 PM, < Zonda wrote:
OK Joan, I'll keep watching. I've been checking your blog to see what. You are going to post. This is beyond belief. No matter what people think of me or what they think I did or didn't do, there is no way in hell I or ANYONE else would have wanted those animals to die. Also, as for the News stories of "dead and dying animals" and making it sound like there were Dead animals everywhere, this is absolute bullshit, bullshit and more bullshit. And I guess this will all come out in court - it is gonna be dirty and I Can assure you that when it's all done, the ones who are sitting on their thrones right now, will no longer have any power OR public respect.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: dogs
HI there ZOnda - I did get the email with the pictures, but I've only been able to confirm the death of Kerry - the MOm of the pups, so I don't want to post it to my blog yet. I've just made a post to Kijiji calling out All Gods Creatures to see what she has to say. I'm hoping she'll say something so I can put it on my blog. This is what I said
-the last time CP dogs were put to sleep you severely chastised us (me) because we didn't just ask you up front whether or not the dogs had been killed. So this time I'm going to ask you point blank, "all gods creatures" -were 3 more of the CP dogs put down?
The names I have are Kerry (Sadie) the mom of the pups that were fostered by Lab rescue, Mel (Camper) a black lab, and Kahula (Maisy) a female amstaff mix
Can you do for us this time what you wanted to do for us last time? Tell us we're all completely wrong and a bunch of liars?
Joan
AllGodsCreatures wrote:
I'm sure the ones that were PTS were for legitimate reasons, or from what I know. They are better off where they are now. I'm sure of that. All the bones they could possibly want hundreds stuffys to tear apart.
joan
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:59 AM, < Zonda wrote:
Joan did you get the email I sent you with the pictures of the dogs? I see where something bounced back to me and I can't tell what the hell it is.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: RUMOR
One other thing I did get emailed this morning though - and I think it was also on Kijiji - was the new "Code of Conduct" - did you go read it? What a pile of shit! That is something I'd never sign. Especially the part:
In the course of your activities with the Society, you may have access to confidential information related to the Society's business. Such information includes, but is not limited to, all Society's activities, investigations and personal information. You may not either during your period of service or thereafter, directly or indirectly use or disclose to anyone any such information, except as required by law. You should observe the following principles when dealing with the Society's business and activities:
a) Assume that all information you have regarding the Society is confidential, unless the contrary is obvious.
b) Treat all personal information as confidential.
c) Before sharing confidential information with others in the Society, make sure that you are permitted to do so.
d) Do not disclose confidential information to anyone outside the Society. e) Keep in mind that all forms of communication are covered, including but not limited to verbal, written, telephone, faxes, e-mail, chat rooms, blogging and text messaging.
f) When you are not sure of a situation consult your supervisor or the Compliance Officer.
5. Communicating To The Media
Protecting the reputation of the Society and maintaining a good public image is everyone's responsibility. Dealing with the media requires skill, tact, diplomacy and knowledge of the topic. Only the President or someone appointed by him or her is authorized to speak to the media. Under no circumstances will anyone speak to the media in regards to any business or activities of the Society. You will respond with "no comment" to all media inquiries and direct them to the President.
What a load of bullshit that whole section is. Can you imagine expecting a volunteer to never talk about anything that happens at the SPCA.
What a load of crap.
Joan
On 7/9/08, Me and my dogs <dogkisser@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I saw that too - it was Wet Moss - Heather Morrison who emailed me the news this morning as well. I haven't heard any details about it yet - I am hoping that it's not as meaningless as her stepping down to Vice President was a couple months ago. Joan
On 7/9/08, Zonda < Zonda wrote:
I see on Kijiji that Pam resigned!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/imadogkisser
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: News
Hi there Zonda -
sorry I didn't reply back sooner - Jackie's been sick this weekend and I've spent some time with him over at the Emergency clinic - I'm hoping that he's not going to lose vision in his other eye. Having only one good eye is so scary. I'm trying to wrap my head around this whole proxy thing - but what you're saying here is very interesting - I like the idea of the unpaid for proxy's being destroyed. That's good, and if they were all written up by one person - that's even better. Another good reason for them to be destroyed too.
Joan
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 5:01 PM, < Zonda wrote:
Hi Joan:
As far as anyone protecting mom, I have no idea what they would have to protect her from. If she wasn't doing her appointed duties, then she should have been let go and told why. So as for why Judith did anything to as she says "protect" mom, I have no idea. As far as Betty "buying proxys" I don't take that exactly from the emails I saw. Here is what I take from it. Firstly DID Betty actually get the proxy's from anyone? Who did she or the branch get them from? SOMEONE had the power to vote on those proxy's and the emails imply the Ant. Branch BUT in order for proxy's to count or memberships to count, WHO if anybody PAID for the memberships?????? I can tell you who it was NOT. OR were the memberships paid for at all and if they were not, then the proxy's would not have counted. My guess is the ladies in Ant. have been warned to shut up by somebody. Mom loved her position and IF anyone was "protecting" mom then it was their own choosing and for their own reasons that are unknown to me. Also, when I looked at the email where it mentions "making out a cheque for membership's to make it legitimate, I say to myself, the best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. The POWERFUL people in all this are up there in metro. IF any money changed hands, then it happened up there and if NO money changed hands, then the votes shouldn't have counted. Someone had to have accepted membership money at the branch or provincial office level to make those count.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Me and my dogs" <dogkisser@gmail.com
To: < Zonda
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: News
What I don't understand Zonda - is why Pam and Judith were protecting your Mom if she wasn't the person who bought all the proxy's for Judith in 2002 - I thought that the proxy's were what this was all about. If Betty was the person who bought the proxy's - then why were Pam and Judith protecting your Mom? Even in these emails Judith says she wants the inspector in Cape Breton to be able to continue to do her job - which must be Alice – so even back in 2002 Judith was picking out Alice from the masses.
joan
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM, < Zonda wrote:
You know what, just my opinion, this is enough to have someone get in a pile of legal shit...especially if they are a "legal" person already.
http://www.youtube.com/user/imadogkisser http://dogkisser.blogspot.com/ http://charlieloveshalifax.ca/
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: Zonda
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: Joan's blog
We think he is alive and living in a cage at metro
From: Zonda [mailto: Zonda ]
Sent: June 18, 2008 11:49 AM
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Subject: Re: Joan's blog
What happened?
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: Zonda
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Joan's blog
It is about zues.
----- Original Message -----
From: Zonda < Zonda>
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Sent: Wed Jun 18 11:44:20 2008
Subject: Re: Joan's blog
OK let me know if it's something you can share. Jackie looks adorable on the blog.
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: Zonda
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: Joan's blog
Not sure, but have asked
________________________________
From: Zonda [mailto: Zonda ]
Sent: June 17, 2008 11:13 PM
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Subject: Joan's blog
Importance: High
Hi Netta: I read Joan's post for June 17th "I give up" - now what happened? Someone sent an email and whatever happened, Joan seems to have reached the end of her rope?????
________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: Zonda
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 7:08 PM
Subject: FW: shaved dog
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Sent: May 10, 2008 8:06 PM
To: 'pbrooks@herald.ca'
Subject: FW: shaved dog
From: X (Trainer) [mailto: (deleted)]
Sent: February 11, 2008 8:39 AM
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Subject: Re: shaved dog
Hi There
I e-mailed Pam yesterday...we can take Scup but have to wait till I place this boarder frist .We did have a home and they decided to go with a puppy. Someone else is interested so as soon as I know I'II let you know. Can someone hold him until then. ??
Chat soon
Stay warm
X (trainer)
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)
To: X (deleted)@bwr.eastlink.ca
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:18 AM
Subject: FW: shaved dog
Hi ya X (trainer)
I have Scuppers rabbies tag vaccine reports etc I will drop them off to you at some point
If there is any think I can do please let me know
Annette
From: Lee Anne Tibbo [mailto:pits@live.ca]
Sent: February 10, 2008 10:09 AM
To: pkeddy@accesscable.net
Cc: Annette Armitage (Seabright); Sean Kelly
Subject: Re: shaved dog
Great! Here is more info on him. Feel free to send it all to X (trainer):
I had just had him clipped in Chester just before I dropped him off, in August. His shots are all up to date and he was happy. I got to tell you, this has been an ordeal, I have hardly slept at all and I tried to come and visit but I wasn't allowed. Please pass along his vet's name so perhaps a copy of his file can be forwarded. Plus Dr. X has clients that he treats all across Canada, and he has worked with us so close with Scupper and Scuppers' outlook has improved lots since. He had Bach.s renmedies and another kind. But I would give him some drops before company came and also on a 5 day schedule before every haircut. X(trainer) was able to cut him quite easily without any sedation for a couple of years now. I think it is very hard on Scupper tpo have his haircut every 4 months, but unfortunately his knots just get too out of control of left any longer. SO a foster home, does that mean that it is not permanent? Man, it took a long time to come to grips with letting him go and I really trusted Zonda, I hope he was okay, is she was nasty, she sure had us fooled. She is so nice and didn't seem to have an unkind bone in her body, this is all so difficult to digest.
I think he looks chubby which I find odd, we had a bowl out all the time for him when he was with us so food did not entice this dog at all, he would any trick going for a tennis ball or a kong, but a hot dag he could take or leave.
I used to take him to the dog park in PEI and he would climb all their equipment as if he never left the ground. I always thought with the right person working with him, we would be going to a doggie acrobat show of some sort to watch him do his thing.
Thank you for your note, we appreciate any news at all.
X X and X. (foster family)
From: Pam Keddy (deleted)
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 11:05 AM
To: Lee Anne Tibbo <(deleted) Cc: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <(deleted); Sean Kelly (deleted) Subject: Re: shaved dog
Thanks Lee Anne.
I have emailed X to come and view the dog to verify if it is Scupper. X (trainer) had emailed me earlier saying she would foster him if he showed up. I have been to X (trainer’s) home in the past and worked with her in rescue previously so if she is interested in assisting him that will be good. Obviously, since he is part of our case we will only be able to sign him out under our foster agreement for now as he must remain under the custody of the NS SPCA until we are legally able to permanently place these animals.
Pamela
----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Anne Tibbo <pits@live.ca
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2008 9:59 pm
Subject: shaved dog
The newly shaved dog has been identified as Scupper. Scupper was
at Zonda's house in Sept/Oct. I only know this from a phone call
as she was referring to him and you just don't forget that name.
Here is the past owner's name as well as her e-mail about him.
Lee Anne
Scupper was my dog since he was a puppy. My name is X and
my phone number is 902-543-9906. My husband and I really loved
this dog. After his first rabies shot at the Vet college in PEI
his attitude changed, this was in combination with me getting
pregnant with our daughter X. He became very protective of me
and when the baby arrived he even got more protective. He loved
our little girl but as she grew and started to grab and pull he
was not a fan. I worked very closly with Dr. X in Chester on
behaviour modifications and training with X (trainer) from X
kennels also in chester. He gets scared very easily and haircuts
have always been an issue. Between Dr. X, X and I, we
worked very hard and long to try to help Scupper with his issues
with lots of success, we used bach's remedy theraputically for his
haircuts to avoid the damaging effects of sedation on his little
organs and this worked wonderfully for almost 2 years. But it got
to a point with the bahaviour modification holistic therapies and
the training when Willow was turning 2 and he would still bare his
teeth to her. At that time we had been looking for a while for a
suitable person to adopt him and that is when we found Zonda, who
wanted to keep him as her own pet.
I am very disappointed in how this all came out in the press as I
feel and have felt for awhile now that she was looking to anyone
who could help her at all. She would come home to find a dog or a
box of cats in her yard and knowing that if she turned the animals
over to the authorities they would have been put down in 24 hours.
And the very people who raided her kennnels are the same folks who
told her that they would not help her save these animals. Locals
know her to care for every animal and I am just very disappointed.
But regardless of all this I am happy that Scupper is looking
healthy and actually a little chubbier than when I left him.
I have all his medical history and Dr. X I'm sure would help
Scupper if he were contacted as well. Also X (trainer) at X
Kennels.... I have been bugging her for awhile to take Scupper as
her own pet and I know she loves him too( as he is very easy to
love) so if there is anything at all I can do short of taking him
back, ( which is actually what I would love to do) PLEASE LET ME
KNOW. My email is ( ) and ph# is (902)XXX-XXXX
I do not reccommend that he be placed with children as we really
did exhaust ourselves trying to get him to be more accepting of
kids but I think he is afraid of the unpredictability of little ones.
I know this is an earful, but he is not a crazy dog, he was very
loved by us for almost his whole life.
Thank you for all you have done it was such a relief to see he is
doing ok. He does need to be clipped at least every 4 months, so
the last time he had been clipped was late August, so now it is
only 5 months later and you know very well how matted he can get.
Thank you again, please pass this message onto your co-workers,
that we pass along our greatest appreciation for your caring
pictures. if you have anymore, we would love to see them.
Oh and last but not least, Scupper eats IAMS the red bag, his
favorite toys are tennis balls and kongs( HE IS A FETCH
FREAK!!!!!!) Also he hates his paws being touched, but he loves
his underarms being scratched. he also is a very talented dog, we
always thought if we knew how to teach a dog tricks, Scupper would
be a natural, he can climb shelves, he can jump like a cat and he
loves to sit in a window with a view of the outside action. We
always said he was part cat.
Obviously I could go on, but I will spare you, I have been losing
sleep over all this, and I love you for loving my puppy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <(deleted)>
To: Zonda (deleted)
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: curious
I haven’t discussed it with him; I did talk to janet about it
BUT even if he knew “of the plan” that still would not explain or justify it..or make it legal
I have no surrenders, they are your animals. That is why it was best for us, in my
opinion do all that when it is needed. If it comes to that point, it will be a rush it will be hectic, BUT you must remain the owner of these animals until everything is settled
From: Zonda [mailto: (deleted)]
Sent: June 19, 2008 12:14 PM
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright) (deleted)
Subject: curious
Netta, I am just trying to figure out why they so carelessly are adopting out these dogs with no worries. Did you ever mention anything to Sean (I know you like him and feel he is trustworthy) about where my stand was on the animals. Does he know what you and I discussed about foster homes and what may happen when the case is over? If he does, my guess is that he may have went back and repeated it to the SPCA and they feel they have free sailing, which legally they do not. I am not pissed off, I am just trying to piece this together abit.
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Armitage (Seabright) <mailto:(deleted)>
To: Zonda
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: NEWS
Lol just got off the phone with repoters lol. They have been calling all day
Sweeeeeeetttttt
Yee haw
----- Original Message -----
From: Zonda < Zonda >
To: Annette Armitage (Seabright)
Sent: Wed Jul 09 16:13:56 2008
Subject: Fw: NEWS
She resigned...it is going to be on the news at 6pm. It said she had some choice words for the BOD in her resignation and she is under personal attack. She said the SPCA is more about politics than the animals!!!!!!!
KARMA
2 comments:
This story should be told. A really good investigative reporter could probably interview many of the people involved and try to get a handle on it all - i'm sure not everyone would be forthcoming but it could be pieced together so that the public could understand the whole story. A good mole who is still privy to the inner workings would be ideal to really find out what happened with Celtic Pets as well as other situations, and any other unethical acts by SPCA management, members, volunteers etc., should be fully and properly discussed. A class action suit is probably the only way that the relevant info - as much as still exists and hasn't been destroyed, that is - can be exposed to scrutiny and not brushed under a PR rug as it seems the movers and shakers want to do.
I can understand how they want to just move on, but accountability is important. What they have done regarding Brindi - ironically a Celtic Pet - and Blair Mitchell being a friend of Judith Gass (could this be a reason he took the case?) is not only going to hurt them, it has put their organization in peril at a time when clearly it is in chaos and many hands are still unclean. All of tKese matters really need a proper resolution and it does not seem like Sean kelly is the person to do that, considering his involvement in these situations.
I think it would be really helpful if somehow there was an SPCA insider as well as owners (adopters, those who've lost animals or been negatively affected by the spca) to provide info as well - there are some out there who have expressed dissent. They are worth contacting.
Thank you for writing this blog, I have been posting on the CTV news facebook and it would seem many have already found her quilty. Interestly enough the SPCA has not yet contacted the owners vet- Ilso found this link... http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=5504798302&ref=nf
Glad we live in Canada -where one is innocent until proven quilty... in this case the person hasn't been charged and alreadys arrangements are being made for her dogs to be placed or adopted. I think this is very sad.....
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